blue-card reply. – I am not sure I have seen a question here, but I will try to give an answer. I never said that the Council, the European Council or the Council of Ministers is less legitimate than the European Parliament, I said the European Parliament plays a role, but no, I didn’t say that.
But I don’t understand why we should not apply the Treaty. And at the moment we are not applying the Treaty because this shift, that push towards the European Council, prevents the Council of Ministers and the European Parliament from doing their job according to the letter of the Treaty. That is the first question.
The second question I mean, who did say that deciding by majority is less democratic than deciding by unanimity? Who said the opposite?
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– Monsieur le Président, Monsieur le Commissaire, l’Europe des vetos, c’est l’Europe de l’inaction, des retards, des chantages et des déceptions. C’est grotesque. Encore récemment, lors de la conférence sur l’avenir de l’Europe, les citoyens ont demandé une défense européenne, une union de l’énergie et une...
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– Mr President, dear smaller Member States, by size or by population, I know you have always fought fiercely for national vetoes and I simply do not understand it. We have all witnessed recently how national vetoes have dramatically been to the advantage of the few bad guys in the room. National vetoes have been...
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blue-card reply. – No they’re not because they did it with good faith. I’m serious! I’m serious! When vetoes are used when the country is not interested in the real content of the policies and it’s just using it to have deals on another topic, that is very problematic. That’s why I think that those that are using...
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